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Restez dans votre galère
 S’il y a bien quelque chose que je déteste, c’est devoir justifier le fait que j’habite en Angleterre. « Mais quand même, tu n’as aucune sécurité de l’emploi, ici… », « Tu peux te retrouver à la rue du jour au lendemain, personne ne viendra te tendre la main », et autre blabla…
Je n’ai qu’une chose à dire à ces gens-là : RESTEZ DANS VOTRE GALERE. Stephen Clarke l’a très bien dit dans « A year in the merde »: le système d’emploi à vie « CDI-35 heures », rêve de tout jeune Français pris dans la galère des stages, a tout du parfait cauchemar. Tout le monde n’a pas vocation de fonctionnaire…Certainement pas moi, en tout cas! Petite anecdote pour conclure : je connais un jeune ingénieur, issu d’un milieu modeste, qui est parti travailler dans la Silicon Valley. A la clé : bon salaire et soleil californien. Vous croyez que ce jeune homme fait la fierté de ses parents, couples de retraités bourguignons ? Non, car « quand même, il n’a pas de sécurité sociale… » Affligeant…
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Lilas
(27.7.06 13:26)
J'aime bien ton blog quand tu parles de littérature, mais pas quand tu donnes des leçons sur le "modèle social français".
On pourrait très bien te répondre: reste à Londres, puisque tu y es si bien, et arrête de juger les autres...
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gadrel
(27.7.06 13:43)
Pourquoi des avis négatifs ne pourraient-ils être émis ? On dirait que tu ne souffres pas la critique. Quand on juge ("j'aime bien ton blog mais j'aime pas tes leçons", "reste à Londres"), on permet aux autres de juger.
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alexandra
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(27.7.06 14:26)
Bonjour,
Gadrel a raison : les avis négatifs, moi je dis plutôt : différents  - doivent permettre justement d'alimenter le débat.
"le modéle social français" est bel et bien mort quoi qu'on veille nous dire!...
Quant à l'Angleterre, il est difficle d'apporter un avis global quant à l'emploi en général. L'opportunité pour certains jeunes français, de commencer une expérience professionnelle là bas me parait plus qu'intéressante.
La sécurité de l'emploi n'est de toute façon pas synonyme de" réussite" et encore moins "d'épanouissement"...!
Après, le débat général se situe, à mon humble avis, à un autre niveau : La reconnaissance sociale par le Travail; La réussite personnelle doit t-elle passer par le Travail Uniquement ?
Une question "sans frontière" que certains se posent dans pas mal de pays...
A bientôt
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maplume
(27.7.06 14:26)
dire "je n'aime pas "n'est pas un jugement, que je sache...bref...
moi j'aimerais bien savoir ce que wrath/lmj, je ne sais pas comment t'appeller(!), bref, notre hôte en ces lieux, fait à Londres exactement, ça m'intéresserait déjà nettement plus. et ca éclairerit certains nements.
pourquoi Londres? opportunité ou choix délibéré?
pour y faire quoi? boulot, tourisme, langues?
désolée si la réponse est déjà sur ce blog mais je ne l'ai pas trouvée.
en tout cas pour moi ce débat est un peu stérile, tout modèle ses avantages et ses inconvénients, si il en existait un idéal ça se saurait.
après c'est une question de convenance personnelle, avec quelques efforts et un peu de courage on peut vadrouiller dans ce bas monde à la recherche de celui qui nous conviendra le mieux, et je parie qu'on ne se retrouvera pas tous au même endroit. heureusement.
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gadrel
(27.7.06 14:44)
En quoi savoir ce qu'elle fait est intéressant ? On discute les idées, pas ceux qui les émettent. Travers gauchiste de cataloguer celui qui parle, de s'imaginer que le "lieu" d'où il parle nous en apprendra plus sur les idées qu'il émet. Le but caché étant de pouvoir fourbir des ad hominem.
Que wrath soit une clocharde ou une rentière, qu'elle aille en GB pour devenir assistante sociale ou trader ne change rien à la pertinence ou à la non pertinence de ses idées.
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maplume
(27.7.06 17:39)
dis donc gradel tu permets que je pose une question?!!!
loin de moi l'idée de "fourbir des ad hominem", je ne fais jamais des choses pareilles, c'est dégueulasse! (si quelqu'un sait ce que ca veut dire...)
si wrath n'a pas envie de me répondre elle me le diras elle-même, tu es bien aimable.
et si il ya des sujets tabous sur ce blog il faut le dire comme ça on ne posera pas la question!
donc je pose la question parce que ça m'intéresse, étant moi-même expatriée, non pas de savoir pourquoi elle a voulu partir (je ne l'imagine que trop), mais pourquoi elle a voulu partir en angleterre, si c'était une opportunité de travail ou une simple envie, que sais-je. simple curiosité, que l'intimité du blog attise, rien de plus. son exptriation est assez souvent abordée dans ce forum pour qu'on se pose la question non? j'aime bien échanger les expériences, mais si ça ne t'intéresse pas, tu t'en remettras, et si elle ne veut pas répondre, c'est tout à fait respectable, aucun problème.
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Aurelien
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(27.7.06 20:23)
Personnellement, je vais bientot devenir fonctionnaire et je trouve que cela s'annonce tres bien. C'est meme la seule chose qui pourrait convenir a mon temperament.
Certaines administrations ont encore un charme tres vieille France un peu faisande. Parfait...
Toi qui aime Huysmans, tu devrais apprecier le charme decadent de ces vieux navires paisibles...
Et peut-etre te faire a l'idee que cela ne te conviendrais pas si mal...
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(27.7.06 21:40)
Tiens! ça me fait penser qu'hier, il était minuit, on cherchait un coin où se poser avc mes copains genre kebab dans palaiseau (plutôt résidentielle)...on trouve rien sauf une chicha...on discute avec le patron super sympas qui nous dit "non mais ici les kebabs ils ferment à 22h30, ici ils ont presque des horaires de fonctionnaires et nous on bosse...je pourrais ouvrir un commerce tabac entre 20h et 24h, ça marcherait bien!!"
Je sais, c vraiment chiant de devoir tjrs justifier le pourquoi du comment, surtout face à ces préjugés bien enracinés typiquement français !!
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(28.7.06 09:04)
Une grande conversation pleine de passion. Je pense (pour reprendre maplume) que le choix d'une expatriation peut en effet faire l'objet d'une réponse sans pour autant cataloguer. Le bloggeur est curieux et se dévoile généralement.
Et à la question d'Alexandra sur la réussite personnelle et le travail, je répondrai HAUT ET FAORT : NON!!!!! Les plus grands manager et coach t'apprendront que l'indispensable règle des 3P : Professionnel, Privé, Personnel. Entendons donc le Travail et l'épanouissement dans une carrière professionnelle, la Famille par exemple et l'épanouissement privée avec ses amis, ses enfants, ...et l'épanouissement purement et simplement égoiste dans la pratique d'un loisir, d'une passion...Si l'un des 3 manque, le déséquilibre est omniprésent!
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wrath666
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(28.7.06 12:09)
Je suis partie en Angleterre par absence de choix, comme je l'ai déjà expliqué ici:
http://20six.fr/wrath666/art/1196557/Les_raisons_de_l_exil
Sinon, ce qui m'intéresse sur ce blog, c'est de parler de mon expérience de jeune écrivain, pas de ce que je fais "officiellement" dans la vie.
Si ça ne satisfait pas votre curiosité, vous n'avez qu'à imaginer que je me roule dans des milliards avec mes collègues de la City
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(28.7.06 13:10)
En effet, le "Rivage des Syrthes" est la référence imposée. Et tout-à-fait assumée par la plupart des membres du ministère. Certains professeurs de culture générale issus de ce milieu n'ont que ce titre à la bouche.
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Alan King
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(16.8.06 22:52)
On ne peut plus d'accord avec toi, Wrath !! Tu me rappelles de nombreuses discussions que j'ai eues avec des français au retour de mes quelques expatriations et ça finit régulièrement de cette manière : restes-y, si t'aimes pas la France !
Sarko n'a pas dû peiner à trouver les mots qui plaisent.
Je crois qu'il est tout simplement impensable pour un français qu'un compatriote s'exhile volontairement. J'avoue ne plus chercher ce genre de conversation avec des français, à présent.
Par contre, pour le récit d'une expatriation mouvementée au Qatar, rendez-vous sur mon blog, suivre "Site web"...
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